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The Lifepo4 QR code B to A Grade problem

Q. What is a QR Code?
A. Its a 3D barcode

Q. What is a Barcode?
A. A visual representation of data

Q. Can a barcode be scanned to verify authenticity of unique products?
A. NO! A QR code does NOT authenticate product genuineness because it can be easily copied or duplicated by anyone.

Put Simply, if I have some text or numbers, I can quickly and easily generate a QR code. It is static data. It does not connect to EVE or any other manufacturer.

Q. Why I keep writing these articles over and over?

Part 1

I am observing that most sellers in Australia (Melbourne, Sydney, Rockhampton, Perth, and Brisbane) sell B grade cells as A grade. They either don’t care, or they don’t know themselves. It’s really disappointing.

I have to defend our own business sometimes, yet those same people attacking me are under the impression that the other sellers are selling genuine products, but I KNOW they aren’t.

a) I know because I have seen their cells in person, and I have seen the packaging. I can see they are buying from QSO, Basen, Docan, or EEL by the boxes, the stickers, the busbars, and the QR CODE! b) I have spoken to most of the sellers personally. c) I have seen the evidence over and over again.

Part 2

I have always known what a barcode and therefore a QR code is. I have personally worked in stock control systems since I was a teenager and in IT for years. I sold and supported stock control systems. We work with barcodes all day, and we know what a keyboard wedge is. (I know that 99.8% of people do not.)

Part 3

I only recently realized that most (not all) people do not understand what they are or how they work.

I’ve watched multiple people scan the code, thinking they were connecting to an authenticity server or something. Recently, I actually watched a guy scan his “known fake” jacket, which had a QR code on it, and I finally realized that people just don’t understand this technology in general.

Let me say this in BOLD red text!

QR CODES DO NOT AND CAN NOT VERIFY AUTHENTICITY

QR Codes for DUMMIES

Below this paragraph I have given you a QR code generator. You can make it do whatever you want within a set number or characters. It can create any data, like

If I have a spreadsheet with genuine QR codes, I can then generate a QR Code. If someone gets a hold of a spreadsheet like this one, attatched here. EVE uses a 24 character “string” of numbers and letters as their identifier.
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Click it to download the spreadsheet of real QR codes, from a real EVE spreadsheet

Use this tool in orange, to create your own EVE barcodes using the Spreadsheet.

In Depth detail of QR codes

The amount of text a QR code can hold depends on the version and error correction level. Here’s a general idea:

  • A standard QR code (Version 40, the largest version) can hold up to:
    • 7,089 numeric characters
    • 4,296 alphanumeric characters
    • 2,953 binary (8-bit) bytes

However, practical QR codes used in everyday situations usually hold much less data to ensure they are easily scannable.
For best results, it’s advisable to keep the text short, typically under 300 characters, to maintain quick and reliable scanning.

Summary

EVE and others like them use QR codes for internal tracking while manufacturing battery cells. They are not there for the end user, to verify the authenticity.

QR Code created with a QR Generator by LiFePo4 Australia

THIS QR will have the string of data “https://www.lifepo4.com.au” You can scan this with a camera app, or a QR Code scanner and it will take you to this website, it won’t work with the LIFEPO4 QR Scanner, because that app has been modified to interpret batteries only.

If you have the spreadsheet with genuine QR codes, You can then generate a QR Codes and upload them to the Laser Engraver, and every 5 seconds you can laser engrave a new QR code onto a B grade cell, making it appear as a genuine A grade product, that even matches the spreadsheet you are look at.

Stop thinking chinese people are not educated, the truth is that many chinese, over 100 Million of them hold college degrees, they are smarter that you, almost certainly. And it only takes a few to tell the others what to do. Just like an egineer would do in Australia to his subordinates. As of recent data, approximately 18.3% of Chinese people hold higher education degrees.
That means, that there are more educated people in china, than the entire population of USA and Australia combined.
It also means that there are at least 10-20 educated chinese people for every one of us.
Make your own judgement.

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How to use a spreadsheet to generate and print new QR codes with a Laser

If someone (think shady chinese battery mafia figure) gets a hold of a spreadsheet like this one, attatched here. They can then upload the data onto the Laser Machine, then one by one, they will write over the top of the Invalid or B Grade QR Code. Thus making a Battery cell with 280ah appear to be a 330ah cell.

It is really simple, the entire process takes a few seconds at most per cell. I have seen a video of this being done, I did not have the ability to save that video, and I can not seem to find it no matter how hard I google, and Baidu it. The videos are private for obvious reasons. But they do exist.

The Process of QR code Re-Lasering

Q How does QR replacement take place, and who is doing it?

A. In china, there are vast warehouses full of products that did not meet specifcations for use in commercial or high voltage battery pack use. They are still batteries, and they work, but for how long I hear you ask?

“how long is a piece of string”

High Voltage Module and A grade Pack disassembled

QR CODES DO NOT AND CAN NOT VERIFY AUTHENTICITY

Summary
A QR code is like a sticker. Anyone can print the same sticker and put it on anything, so it doesn’t prove the product is real. Only trusted sellers, like us, can guarantee the product’s genuineness. 

How to decode the data from EVE LFP Batteries

This is the EVE format of a QR code

How to Quickly Identify Fake Batteries Part 3 QR code parsing

Why a Lifepo4 QR Scanner app does NOT verify the Authenticity or Genuineness of Batteries

As we have discussed, a QR code is STATIC,
1. It does not connect to a database and return anything that can be used to know if the product is real or fake.

The Lifepo4 QR Scanner App, has a database, (think of it as a big spreadsheet. The database contains all the cell models, and some logical programming for the app to be able to decode all known QR codes. The user who created this app, did this to assist the community to try to know what product of battery cells, and where they were made and what capacity they were.
He has been able to gather enough data to make it work for the most popular manufacturers.

Once he has this image and others like it from the other manufacturers, he can very easily decode the important data, and that will return you a result on what that QR is supposed to be attached or printed on. (notice I said supposed)

H95df8f324b3a4959bece3fdc98ad34dbm1How to Quickly Identify Fake Batteries Part 3 QR code parsing
Why Does all this even matter?

In a high voltage battery pack, it’s crucial that the batteries in series are matched and high quality because:

  1. Balanced Performance: Matched batteries ensure consistent performance, as each battery will charge and discharge at the same rate.
  2. Safety: High-quality batteries reduce the risk of failures, such as overheating, leaks, or explosions.
  3. Longevity: Using matched and high-quality batteries extends the overall lifespan of the pack by preventing weak batteries from causing the entire pack to degrade faster.
  4. Efficiency: Ensures that the battery pack operates at optimal efficiency, providing reliable power output without losses due to imbalance.

By ensuring batteries are matched and high-quality, you maintain the safety, efficiency, and durability of the high voltage pack.

But wait there is more!

If a single battery cell in a high voltage pack is faulty, it impacts the entire pack because:

  1. Chain Reaction: In a series configuration, the current flows through each cell in the chain. A faulty cell disrupts this flow, reducing the pack’s overall performance.
  2. Reduced Capacity: The faulty cell limits the pack’s capacity to the weakest cell, causing the whole pack to discharge faster and reducing its overall capacity.
  3. Safety Risks: A single faulty cell can overheat or fail, potentially causing damage to adjacent cells and posing safety hazards like fires or explosions.
  4. Increased Wear: The healthy cells are forced to compensate for the faulty one, leading to uneven wear and shortening the lifespan of the entire pack.

In summary, a single faulty cell can degrade the performance, capacity, and safety of the whole pack, highlighting the importance of ensuring all cells are high quality and well-matched.

Now the best way to explain this. using math

if you have 16 cells in series, all of which are 330ah, though a single cell has only 150ah of capacity, then the entire pack will loose 55% of its capacity.

In this example the single cell, limits the pack to a total of 16 x 150ah. Making your pack only 7.6Kwh, when it should be 16.8kwh.

In dollars in todays market, this would mean,

A $5000 investment would loose $2750 in value.

Making your battery worth only $2250

Not only this but the cell will continue to cause problems, causing your power to cut off regularly, and remain out of balance, and it will strain every other component in your pack.

Not only this but the cell will continue to cause problems, causing your power to cut off regularly, and remain out of balance, and it will strain every other component in your pack.

Notice these are 2023-2024 cells, V3 LF280K or MB31

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Hithium 280ah 300ah and 320ah cell Lifepo4 Review

Wondering about Hithium Lifepo4 cells quality?

Hithium 280Ah cells are a type of lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) battery cells. They are known for their high energy density, long cycle life, and safety features123.

Information about the cell. The cell is identical to the current reference design of a prismatic Lifepo4 cell with the dimensions of 207mm x 173mm x 71mm. These are identical in every way to the cells made by CATL, EVE, CALB, GOTION, BYD, GREAT POWER, REPT, SUNWODA and the list goes on. All of these currently manufacturer this exact same cell, with the exact same dimensions. They all use the same ingredients, with very minute differences to the cathode and anode and electrolyte mixture.

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290AH
Hithium 280AH
  • Product certifications:
    IEC 62619, UL 1973, UL 9540A, UN 38.3
  • Company certifications:
    ISO 9001, ISO 14001, ISO 45001
  • Environmental Compliance: ROHS, REACH

High safety

  • Hithium-developed prismatic LFP cell with high thermal stability
  • Passes crush and nail penetration test
  • Ultra wide operating temperature range


Overall this cell is modified to last longer. Although the truth is the cycle count can be manipulated such as 6000 cycles at 80% is the same as 9000 cycles at 70% and so on. So the claim of 10000 cycles is probably true. Especially considering they are made with the intention of Energy storage, so with a Hithium cell you know you are getting something that will last a very long time.

3.2V 280Ah LiFePO4 Battery Prismatic Cell With 10000cycles (evlithium.com)

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Hithium 280ah 12000 cycle LFP cells used in 400MWh The largest standalone battery storage project in China

The 200MW/400MWh battery energy storage system (BESS) is live in Ningxia, China, equipped with Hithium lithium iron phosphate (LFP) cells.

Established 3 years ago in 2019 is already ramping up to a target of more than 135GWh of annual battery cell production capacity by 2025 for a total investment value of about US$4.71 billion.

The project was connected to the grid earlier this month, through a system integrator called ROBESTEC, about which little information appears publicly available. However, it is understood that although Hithium makes and provides complete BESS solutions as well as cells, in this case, it was the cell supplier.

200MW/400MWh HITHIUM LFP BESS in China

China 400MWh Hithium 12000 cycle LFP Battery 1

The facility stores energy at times of abundant generation from solar PV and wind, putting it into the grid during times of peak demand. It will also help regulate grid frequency.

If you are interested in these new 280AH cells, which Hithium and CATL currently can produce specifically for ESS use, let us know, as we have access to the cells when the demand is slightly lower. As these are actually in high demand for commercial applications, and they technically are hard to get for the DIY community.

it’s expected this giant LFP battery will cut CO2 emissions by 501,000 tons per year

Hithium specializes in the R&D, production, and sales of LFP energy storage batteries and systems. With strong customer orientation, they are committed to providing safe, efficient, clean, and sustainable energy storage solutions for the world. Hithium now has over 4400 employees globally including over 1000 R&D engineers with extensive experience in energy storage. With a planned 4.71 billion USD total investment and 1,400,000m2 factory space to achieve 135GWh production capacity of the energy storage battery in 2025.

Xiamen Haichen New Energy Lithium Battery
Hithium-280ah-LFP280 12000 Cycles Storage Grade
280ah capacity test
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We delivered these cells in 2022 to a few customers and currently have a small shipment arriving again in February 2023. As they are an unknown brand to many customers, we haven’t ordered large quantities, because many customers still want EVE, CATL, LiShen, CALB, and various other brands they have heard of. It’s just not a well-known brand,

In the past was a bad thing, But with this type of new technology, sometimes it’s a great thing to get in early while you can.

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LiFePo4 B grade EVE 280ah QR codes
EVE letter B meaning

EVE will now engrave the letter B

All Alibaba/Aliexpress sellers will now only be able to supply B grade cells, this information has come directly from EVE themselves. This includes stores such as Shenzhen Qishou Technology Limited made famous in Australia by the Off Grid Garage.
We know that these companies are already looking to replace the QR Codes of the B grade cells, to make them appear as A grade for the market. As they told us directly when we asked.

We have known for a long time that it was likely all cells on Alibaba are B grade or used cells. We just had no good way to prove this.

What we now know is that all cells on Alibaba that are EVE will be marked with the letter B. That stands for a B grade, and if it doesn’t, the QR will have been changed. EVE Energy has assured us, that they do not sell to any of the Alibaba suppliers any A-Grade product for battery storage. To ensure you are receiving A-grade cells you will need to purchase your cells at a higher price, from Lifepo4 Australia or our partners.

We have made the decision to work with both EVE and some Alibaba sellers on the B grade cells, that have been hand-picked to be the better quality of the B grade cells. As we know they can work in certain scenarios, especially for caravans and camping purposes.

We highly recommend anyone choosing their LIFEPO4 cells for home or commercial use buy only A-grade cells. Yes, they are a little more expensive however, the math will work out heavily in your favor over time. When you’re A grade cells are still performing after 1000 cycles, all the way to 6000 cycles as EVE and CATL claim their A grade cells can achieve.

We also know that all the CATL cells on Alibaba and Aliexpress are either used, or B grade, as CATL does not sell A grade cells to any of the battery manufacturers on Alibaba and Aliexpress.

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