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Comparing the most popular 300AH Lifepo4 cells

Comparing the EVE LF304 to the LF280, LF280K, and LF280k v3, MB30, MB31 we can analyze the key differences and similarities among these popular Lifepo4 cells.

You can also find out why the next generation of MB (Mr Big) cells is better than the last, mostly due to the new stacking technique being employed by just a small number of LFP manufacturers. At this stage CATL, EVE have next generation cells, not yet freely available. But in the near future, you will be able to purchase these cells if you don’t buy them from the grey markets.

EVE LF304

EVE 304ah 300Ah 310Ah 320Ah
LF304 EVE

The EVE LF304 has a cycle life of 4000 at 0.5C/0.5C. Giving it an estimated lifespan of up to 11 years.
The EVE LF304 is EVE’s high power cell, with thicker coatings,

Capacity: 304Ah
Nominal Voltage: 3.2V

Production technology – Winding

LF280

LF280

The EVE LF280 has a cycle life of 4000 cycles at 0.5C/0.5C. Giving it an estimated lifespan of up to 11 years
Capacity: 280Ah
Nominal Voltage: 3.2V

Maximum Continuous Discharge 1C
Production technology – Winding

LF280K

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EVE LF280K

The EVE LF280K has a cycle life of 6000 cycles at 0.5C/0.5C. Giving it an estimated lifespan of up to 16 years
Capacity: 280Ah
Nominal Voltage: 3.2V

Cycle Life @ 0.5C : 6000 Cycles
Production technology – Winding

LF280k v3

The EVE LF280K has a cycle life of 6000 cycles (A+ Grade 8000 Cycles) at 0.5C/0.5C. Giving it an estimated lifespan of up to 16 years
Capacity: 280Ah
Nominal Voltage: 3.2V

Cycle Life: 6000 Cycles (A+ Grade 8000 Cycles)
Maximum Continuous Discharge 1C
Recommended Discharge 0.5C

Production technology – Stacking

MB30

The EVE MB30 has a cycle life of 10000 cycles at 0.5C/0.5C. Giving it an estimated lifespan of up to 20-25 years
Capacity: 306Ah
Expected Real measured capacity when new 320+AH
Nominal Voltage: 3.2V

Cycle Life: 10000 Cycles
Maximum Continuous Discharge 1C
Recommended Discharge 0.5C

Production technology – Stacking

MB31

The EVE MB31 has a cycle life of 8000 cycles at 0.5C/0.5C. Giving it an estimated lifespan of up to 20-25 years
Capacity: 314Ah
Expected Real measured capacity when new 330+AH
Nominal Voltage: 3.2V
Advertised Cycle Life: 8000 Cycles

Maximum Continuous Discharge 1C
Recommended Discharge 0.5C

Production technology – Stacking

Stacking vs Winding

Longer life span
The stacked battery cell has more tabs, the shorter the electron transmission distance, and the smaller the resistance, so the internal resistance of the stacked battery cell can be reduced, and the heat generated by the battery cell is small. The winding is prone to deformation, expansion and other problems, which affect the attenuation performance of the battery.

Comparing process of stacking battery vs winding

Stacking
Winding
Energy density
Higher. Higher space utilization.
Lower. There is a C angle, and the larger the capacity, the lower the utilization rate.
Structural stability
Higher. The internal structure is uniform and the reaction rate is relatively low.
Lower. There is a C angle, which leads to uneven rate of internal reaction of charging and discharging.
Fast charging adaptation
Better. The multi-pole plates are connected in parallel, the internal resistance is low, and the charge and discharge of large current can be completed in a short time, and the rate performance of the battery is high.
Poor. During the charge and discharge process, the degradation rate of the active material at the high temperature position is accelerated, and the other positions are rapidly attenuated.
Safety
The risk is low. Stress distribution is more consistent, which keeps the interface flat and more stable.
Lower. Potential problems such as powder shedding, burrs, pole piece expansion, and separator stretching are easy to occur at the bend.
Cycle life
Longer. Low internal resistance, relieve battery heating during fast charging, improve battery chemical system stability and prolong service life.
Shorter. It is easy to deform in the later stage, which in turn affects the cycle life of the battery.
Productivity
Large-capacity batteries are generally low, mainly 6-8PPM.
Higher, generally at 12-13PPM.
Yield
Low, the glitch problem is prominent.
Higher automation, higher yield rate, higher number of pole pieces.
Process maturity
Low, the number of pole pieces is large, and the investment in equipment is large.
Higher, fewer pole pieces, mature equipment and low investment cost.

Summary of new technology

Technologies such as low-expansion anode materials, full tab design, electrode surface treatment, and flexible electrode forming help resolve liquid infiltration challenges for large cells, enabling comprehensive safety protection and high cycle life through heat insulation, diffusion prevention, pressure relief

What to choose for a battery with the longest lifespan.

EVE MB30 Automotive A+ verified cells directly supplied from EVE, not via a third party, not via Alibaba, and not from most resellers and battery pack manufacturers including almost all battery builders in Australia and China, unless they can provide you with a) the official eve delivery report for the cell purchase, and b) evidence that the QR code is genuine and not re-lasered.
The B grade to A grade problem is going to be larger with the new models the LF280K v3 which is actually the MB30

A genuine QR code should be shiny behind the data that has been printed.

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QR EVE LF304
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CATL EnerOne

We can supply a range of CATL EnerOne storage systems. Are you looking for a commercial grade energy storage solution?

Contact us for pricing and availability, Generally a lead time of about 90-120 days is required for CATL to be able to supply these kinds of systems.

Having modular nominal capacity of 232.96Kw, 372.7 kWh and 407.34kWh depending on the cell chosen, 280, 285 and 306ah with a floor space of just 1.69 square meters. The system is suitable for inverters with operating voltages ranging from 600 to 1500 volts. EnerOne can be efficiently shipped as a complete product, which greatly reduces on-site installation costs and commissioning time.  

EnerOne can be used flexibly in outdoor applications, thanks to the protection level IP 66 of the main components and the adaptability to ambient temperature range of -30 to +55 ℃. It has passed various critical tests on the cell, module and rack level. EnerOne has obtained UL9540A test report, and in this test there’s no fire and no extra thermal propagation without the help from fire suppression system.

EnerOne CATL 372.7

High level of safety

  • LFP batteries with high thermal stability
  • Protection level of IP66 to meet the requirements of outdoor applications
  • Resistance up to C5 corrosion level, with 20-year reliability
  • Separate fire protection system

Long service life

  • Available for integration with CATL’s advanced technologies (e.g. optional cell with super-long cycling up to 12,000 cycles)
  • Integrated frequency conversion liquid-cooling system, with cell temperature difference limited to 3ºC, and a 33% increase of life expectancy

High integration

  • Modular design, compatible with 600 – 1,500V system
  • Separate water cooling system for worry-free cooling
  • Modular design with a high energy density, saving the floor space by 50%
  • Transportation after assembly, reducing on-site installation costs and commissioning time

The EnerOne+Rackconsists of following parts: batteries, BMS, FSS and TMS, which are integrated together to keep the normal working of the Rack.

Battery

The capacity of cellis 306Ah,1P52S cells integrated in one module,8 modules integrated into one Rack.As the core of the energy storage system, the battery releases and stores energy.

BMS

BMSadopts the distributed scheme, through the three-level (CSC–SBMU–MBMU)architecture to control the BESS,andensure the stable operation of the energy storage system.It canmanageenergy absorption and release, the thermal management system andauxiliarypower supplyaccording to the detectedinformation:battery voltage, currentandtemperature.It canmonitorhigh voltage DC/AC security, diagnosis and analysis faultsaccording informationfrom various detectors and dry-contacts.Andit cankeep communicationwith PCS and EMSthrough CAN.

FSS

FSS consists of smoke detectorand heatdetector(Orheatdetector and gasdetector), the aerosol, the dry pipe(optional).FSSundertakesfunctions :monitorthe thermalrun-awayrisks ofRackthroughthedetectors, extinguishthe thermal run awayin an early stage, andcontrol the loss to minimum. The FSS is independent with any other systemandit is the security guard of EnerOne+Rack.

TMS

TMS consists of one powerful chiller, one PTC heaterandthe liquid cooling pipe distributed in each battery module. The TMS will keep the battery work at best state and reach longest life.

Controlbox

Control box mainly includes detection device, protection device and AC/DC power supply. The structure is shown as follows.

DC Side Data
Product ModelR08306P05L31
P-Rate0.5P
Cell
Cell typeLFP
Cell capacity306Ah
Cell Voltage range2.5-3.65V
Cell rated Energy979.2Wh
System
Configuration1P416S
Rated Energy407.34 kWh
Rated Voltage1331.2 VDC
Voltage Range1040~1500 VDC
Rated Charging Current153A
Maximum Charging Current195.8A,<1min
Rated Charging Power203.67kW
Rated Discharging Current153A
Maximum Discharging Current195.8A,<1min
Rated Discharging Power203.67kW
AuxiliaryPower&Communication
Product ModelR08306P05L31
P-Rate0.5P
Auxiliary Power1 for BMSVoltageL+N+PE/220V/110V±10%,
Range50/60HZ
PowerMax.135W
Rated Current2.3A
 Inrush≤6A,<1S
Current
Auxiliary Power2 for coolingunitVoltageL+N+PE/220V±20%,50/60HZ
Range
PowerMax.3kW(Continuous)
Rated Current10A
Inrush≤12.5A,<1ms
Current
Auxiliary Power3 for Fire FSSVoltage24VDC
Range
Power0.003W(Standby state)
27.3W(Alarm status)
Current0.125mA(Standby state)
1.1375A(Alarm status)
Communication ProtocolCAN, Modbus/TCP
MechanicalData
Product ModelR08306P05L31
TransportationLand or sea transportation
Size2348mm(H)*1390mm(W)*1344.1mm(D)
Weight3600±100kg
ColorRAL7035
IP LevelIP56(Battery Room)
IP23(Electrical Room)
IP66(Control Box)
IP66(Battery Modules)
IP26(Chiller Unit)
Environmentcondition
Charge Temperature Range-25ºC…+55ºC
Discharge Temperature Range-25ºC…+55ºC
Storage Temperature Range-30ºC…+60ºC
Application Altitude≤4000m
Relative Humidity0~95%(non-condensing)
Degree of Anti-corrosion of Battery UnitC5
Seismic LevelIEEE693-2018 Moderate design level
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Who is CATL?

CATL is the leading Lithium and as of 2023 Sodium-ion battery manufacturer in China and the World.

CATL (Contemporary Amperex Technology Limited) is a Chinese battery manufacturer that produces lithium-ion and as of 2023 sodium-ion batteries for electric vehicles (EVs) and energy storage systems. The company was founded in 2011 and has quickly become the leading EV battery manufacturer in the world. It supplies batteries to a number of major automakers, including Tesla, Volkswagen, BMW, and Toyota. CATL has also established a number of partnerships and collaborations with other companies in the EV and energy storage industries.

The company provides research and development, production, and sale of electric vehicle and energy storage battery systems. It also provides battery management systems, materials, battery cells, and battery recycling and reuse systems. These batteries are used in electric passenger vehicles, electric buses, electric trucks, and other special vehicles; and spare parts. The products of energy storage systems find their applications in renewable energy, communication base stations, grid frequency modulation, commercial and industrial buildings, and household energy storage. It also operates its business from Ningde, Fujian, China also has production in Germany, and overseas offices in Japan, France, and the USA regions.

LiFePo4 Video from CATL

Official CATL VIDEO

HOW China’s CATL makes its batteries

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Next-Generation Automotive M3P Batteries by CATL

CATL, the world’s largest Lithium Battery Manufacturer, has recently announced a new battery type, with a modified version of the LMFP chemistry, LMFP stands for Lithium Maganese Ferro Phosphate, its very similar to the LFP (LiFePo4) chemistry only that the manganese allows for the voltage to rise from the 3.2 to around 4.1v, this means there is higher energy inside the same form factor or another way to say that is the higher energy density.

CATL doesn’t do things unless they are tested, thought out, and ready for mass production.

Why Voltage matters

My two cents, what do we know about voltage and the effect it has on every type of Lithium Battery cells?

We know that the lower the nominal and fully charged voltage the longer the lifespan, if you look at LTO (Lithium Titanium oxide aka Li2TiO3) the nominal voltage lies at 2.3v and the lifespan can reach 20000 cycles with the fully charged voltage at only 2.8v.

Or if we look at what’s called ternary lithium cells, such as NMC (Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt Oxide aka LiNiMnCoO2 and NCA (Lithium Nickel Cobalt Aluminum Oxide aka LiNiCoAlO2) chemistry, the ones currently used by most Tesla’s (excluding the Chinese made Tesla’s that are not performance models) the nominal voltage is 3.7, but the full charged voltage is 4.2v, which is high, and it’s known that higher voltages translate into lower lifespans, which is why LFP does pretty well and can reach 6000 or even 10,000 cycles if treated well. It is also reported that Tesla will be one of the largest customers of CATL for the new M3P battery, with reports that the Tesla Semi will also use them.

So with rumors of the new M3P battery being manufactured by CATL, what have they managed to do, that gives a lifespan similar to LFP but still with the higher operating voltage? At this point we don’t know, as the information is not known, at least from my research I can’t find any further details on what they have added to the chemistry to enable the lifespan such as LFP.

According to CNEVPost, the M3P cells use the same olivine structure as LFP batteries. However, they replace iron with magnesium, zinc, and aluminum. There is speculation as to whether the Chinese website meant manganese instead of magnesium, but the information has not been corrected according to Autoevolution, so we are left to speculation.

Official data shows that the energy density of the CATL (LiMnZnAl) batteries will be about 15-20% higher than that of the LFP types, which hovers around 210 kWh/kg. This is a huge increase, and it’s believed it’s at a similar cost as the LFP battery.

It is also reported that Sunwoda and Eve Energy are all in the early stages of producing LMFP, with samples already being delivered to their partners for testing.

At this stage, we believe at first it will be very hard to get your hands on these cells, so I would estimate 2024 or even 2025 before this cell could be used for energy storage like we do today with the LFP cells.

And we still believe that LFP will have a longer lifespan, simply because of the voltage. We also now recommend a 90% DOD charge profile. 2.8v bottom and 3.45v top for your battery pack. We also believe keeping the draw at under 0.5C is a really good idea if you are wanting to achieve the huge cycle numbers and still have a good battery a few years from now.

Sources
1. CATL Promises M3P Cells For 2023, But What Are They? – autoevolution
2. Tesla Model 3 With CATL’s M3P Battery to Launch in China, Offers Better Range, Lower Price – autoevolution
3. Rumor: China-Made Tesla Model 3 To Get CATL’s M3P Batteries (insideevs.com)
4. Tesla Semi Specs Change, Chinese Model 3 To Use CATL M3P Batteries – CleanTechnica
5. CATL to announce first vehicles to be powered by Qilin Battery on Aug 27 – CnEVPost




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EVE vs CATL

Both EVE and CATL are professional LFP Prismatic manufacturers in China.
CATL is the world’s largest battery manufacturer, and EVE is inside the TOP 10.
Both companies work with car manufacturers, like Tesla, Geely, and Dongfeng Motors.

Both of these companies are poised for huge growth in the coming decade.

Both of these manufacturers have produced slightly different battery compositions to cater for either a high C rate discharge or a longer life low C rate prismatic cell. The LF280K from EVE is now widely respected and known to be of high quality.

CATL however, is not selling cells directly to the public, so all CATL cells are sold on the grey market, on places such as Alibaba, and Made in China. Many of these sellers, do sell B-grade cells, so you are taking a huge risk to purchase from these marketplaces.

EVE does allow the purchase of LFP cells directly to the public however, most people choose not to purchase from EVE because they don’t understand that a huge percentage (98%) of Alibaba and Aliexpress cells are actually B grade cells. They also have very complicated shipping procedures which are very difficult for the average person wot work with.

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Model
Voltage
Capacity
Height
Length
Width
Weight (g)
LF50K
3.2v
50ah
185
135.3
29.3
1395
LF80
3.2v
80ah
170.5
130.3
36.7
1630
LF90K
3.2v
90ah
200.5
130.3
36.7
1970
LF100MA
3.2v
100ah
118.5
160
49.9
1920
LF105
3.2v
105ah
200.5
130.3
36.7
1980
LF173
3.2v
173ah
207
174
41
3250
LF230
3.2v
230ah
207.3
174
53.9
4110
LF280
3.2v
280ah
200
173.7
72
5220
LF280N
3.2v
280ah
200
173.7
72
5300
LF280K
3.2v
280ah
204.6
173.7
72
5420
LF304
3.2v
304ah
208.8
173.5
72
5490
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Model
Voltage
Capacity
Height
Length
Width
Weight (g)
CB50
3.2v
50ah
135
175
30
1390
CB60
3.2v
60ah
220
135
29
1900
CB86
3.2v
86ah
133
173
47
2160
CB100
3.2v
100ah
170
200
34
2270
CB105
3.2v
105ah
167
200
34
2260
CB120
3.2v
120ah
170
174
48
2860
CB140
3.2v
140ah
171
200
46
3200
CB176
3.2v
176ah
205
174
54
3800
CB202
3.2v
202ah
201
174
54
4120
CB271
3.2v
271ah
207.2
174
71.7
5470
CB280
3.2v
280ah
207.2
174
71.7
5340
CB310
3.2v
310ah
208
174.5
72.5
5800

How to tell them apart visually

Let’s begin with the most common cell the 280ah capacity cells. The first thing you will notice is both have the QR code in the same location. However, the EVE cell has oval-shaped terminals and the CATL has circular.
Genuine EVE cells will also state the cell model. eg LF280 or LF280K

CATL 280AH

EVE LF280K

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LF280K QR
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